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Postby Proto-Mind » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:06 am

I was thinking of making a speed scale, and this would only be focused on movement speed, not reaction time or combat speed. This would encompass three types of methods of travel: land, water, and flight. I know at the Outskirts Battledome they have some information for character speeds, but this does not address what type of speed, so it can be misleading.

Another problem is the lack of information on how these numbers came about. So I decided I'd provide speeds for different characters and include how these numbers came to be. I encourage, but mostly would greatly appreciate it if others helped out.

Arwing
Flight speed
  • 1,442 m/s; 4,731 ft/s; 3,226 mph; 5,193 km/h; Mach 4.2

Blue Falcon
Land speed
  • Normal: 278 m/s; 912 ft/s; 622 mph; 1,002 km/h; Mach 0.8 - 1
  • Max Speed: 287 m/s; 942 ft/s; 642 mph; 1,034 km/h; Mach 0.8 - 1
  • Boost Power: 469 m/s; 1,537 ft/s; 1,048 mph; 1,687 km/h; Mach 1.3 - 1.4

Dragonite
Flight speed
  • 687 m/s; 2,252.8 ft/s; 1,536 mph; 2,473 km/h; Mach 2

Kirby
Flight speed
  • Normal: ?
  • Jet Normal: ?
  • Jet Charged: 1,717 m/s; 5,632 ft/s; 3,840 mph; 6,182.4; Mach 5

Kratos
Land speed
  • Hermes' Boots: 18 m/s; 59 ft/s; 40 mph; 64 km/h; Mach 0.05

Link
Land speed
  • Bunny Hood (MM Only): x * 0.68
  • Goron Mask: ?
  • Pegasus Boots/Seeds (Various): x * 4

Master Chief
Land speed
  • Normal: ?
  • Under duress: 29 m/s; 95 ft/s; 65 mph; 104 km/h; Mach 0.08

Meta Ridley
Flight speed
  • 16,121+ m/s; 52,941+ ft/s; 36,096+ mph; 58,115+ km/h; Mach 47+

Pidgeot
Flight speed
  • 687 m/s; 2,252.8 ft/s; 1,536 mph; 2,473 km/h; Mach 2

Pit
Flight speed
  • 452 m/s; 1,482 ft/s; 1,010 mph; 1,626 km/h; Mach 1.3

Samus Aran
Land speed
  • Normal: 29 m/s; 95 ft/s; 65 mph; 105 km/h; Mach 0.08
  • Varia Suit (RoS Only): 32 m/s; 104 ft/s; 71 mph; 114 km/h; Mach 0.09
  • Boost Ball (MPT Only): 49 m/s; 159 ft/s; 109 mph; 175 km/h; Mach 0.14
  • Speed Booster: 412 m/s; 1,352 ft/s; 922 mph; 1,484 km/h; Mach 1.2

Flight speed
  • Normal: Presumably the same speed Samus travels on foot.
  • Shinespark: 473 m/s; 1,553 ft/s; 1,059 mph; 1,705 km/h; Mach 1.3 - 1.4

Space Marine
Land speed
  • Walking: 13 m/s; 41 ft/s; 28 mph; 45 km/h; Mach 0.04
  • Running: ?
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Explanation On Acquired Speeds

Postby Proto-Mind » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:09 am

Arwing
Flight speed
Questionable until an official source is otherwise given. I acquired it from Arwingpedia.

Blue Falcon
Land speed
All speeds can be demonstrated in F-Zero GX/AX. The Normal speed can be found by driving in a linear path without turning. The same is for Max speed. Boost Power here is when the Blue Falcon is at its peak, ignoring the base value.

Dragonite
Flight speed
According to the Pokédex, Dragonite can fly around Earth in 16 hours.

Kirby
Flight speed
"Strap jet power to your back! Hold the B Button to charge, then let go to hit Mach 5!" (Kirby Super Ultra Star - Jet)

Kratos
Land speed
Kratos' base speed is unknown. However, there is a cut-scene where Hermes runs on a tightrope to the otherside in 6 seconds. Although the distance is unknown, the estimated magnitude is 360 feet, the distance of a football field.

Link
Land speed
The 68% increase from the Bunny Hood is found from Zeldapedia. I cannot confirm this, as I do not know how this was determined. Either way, FactPile originally went with Link's speed being increased by 50%. As for the Pegasus Boots and Seeds, these are confirmed by Zelda.com to increase Link's speed by 4.

Master Chief
Land speed
"He could feel his Achilles tendon tear, but he didn't slow. He crossed the half-kilometer stretch in seventeen seconds and skidded to halt." - Halo: Fall of Reach, p. 264

Meta Ridley
Flight speed
According to this image, the Frigate Orpheon is 226 kilometers (140 mi.) above Tallon IV. The time it took for Samus' ship to enter Tallon IV's atmosphere was 14 seconds. 226,000 / 14 is 16,142.857142 m/s, which is Mach 47. Although this image wasn't used in the final release, even then, if 161 km (100 mi.) was used based on the information from this site, Meta Ridley would still reach hypersonic speeds of up to Mach 34+. Keep in mind, this is only Meta Ridley, not his normal form.

Pidgeot
Flight speed
Pidgeot's speed is confirmed by the Pokédex. See also in-game data.

Pit
Flight speed
At the end of Chapter 25 of Kid Icarus: Uprising, I estimated that Pit is flying above a cliff, which I compared to the height of Niagara Falls, 51 meters. I took an extra 51 meters, meaning Pit would be 102 meters above the sea. The time recorded here begins at 12:11 to 12:58, or 47 seconds.

The distance I chose was the lower troposphere, since that's where Pit seemed to be located. The troposphere is 70,000 feet, or 21,336 meters (21 km.). 21,336 – 102 = 21,234 meters. By dividing the distance by the time it took, Pit would have traveled at speeds of up to 451.79 m/s, which is the same as Mach 1.3.

Samus Aran
Land speed
Samus is estimated to run 65 mph. The reason for this is because she outruns an avalanche in Metroid: Other M. The avalanche appears to be a dry snow type, which can travel between 60 and 80 mph. Since Samus would need to outrun the avalanche, she would need to be faster than 60 mph.

In Metroid: Return of Samus, the percent difference between Samus' normal running speed and the Varia Suit speed is a 9% difference, which means in RoS, Samus could run 71 mph. As for the Boost Ball, I kept getting a 67% increase of Samus' normal running speed.

According to the Metroid Fusion and Metroid: Zero Mission instruction manuals, the Speed Booster allows Samus to run at supersonic speeds. While it is feasible she could attain Mach 4.9, the low end is used, granting her the ability to travel Mach 1.2.

Flight speed
When Samus uses the Space Jump in Super Metroid, she tends to travel the same speed in the air as she does on the ground. If she is walking and uses the Space Jump, that will be her aerial speed. If she runs, that will be her aerial speed. If she even uses the Speed Booster, she will travel at that speed.

In Super Metroid, Samus' shinespark has been demonstrated to travel 15% faster, meaning she can travel between Mach 1.3 and 1.4. The reason is because Mach 1.2 is 412 m/s, but the 15% makes her speed 473 m/s. This is not necessarily Mach 1.3, as she travels above it, but she never attains Mach 1.4.

Space Marine
Land speed
"Pausing, I looked back over my shoulder at the diminishing image of the cliff-face behind me, with the storm wall rolling towards it. By my own calculations, I had walked about fifteen kilometres in twenty minutes, through a frozen desert in arctic temperatures, and yet I was not even breathing hard." (Dawn of War: Ascension)
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Matapiojo » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:14 am

Added to the sticky.
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby theobserver » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:14 pm

Hey Proto, is it possible to determine Mega Man's movement speed on his instances of dodging sonic waves? Unlike the lasers and lightning examples in the MM mythos, these sonic attacks actually appear to behave like they're supposed to. Not only that, but since they travel at around the same speed as the bullet projectiles that MM characters are so accustomed to dodging and in some cases outrunning, wouldn't that make them more reliable as a reference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EksCg7MWWJ8#t=6m27s

This is my video for reference. The description of the attack gained is at 8:30
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Alpha or Omega » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:35 pm

I'm guessing you calculated the speed of the arwings from this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Thgwxhn ... age#t=473s
8:10 to 8:30
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Proto-Mind » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:30 am

theobserver, I'd be inclined to say that fits more with Mega Man's reaction time, rather than his movement speed. I'm not sure what method could be used to find out how fast he could run on foot.

Alpha or Omega, I didn't do the calculations for the Arwing. That description was found at Arwingpedia, but I didn't see a reference for it.
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Stealthranger » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:35 am

Another little something for 40K Space Marines, where they can move at 45mph in an arctic desert (travelled 15 km in 20 minutes). Which would be 12.5 m/s; 41 ft/s; 28 mph; 45 km/h; Mach 0.04; 0.0000000417 c

Note: the c thing was for the sheer hell of it
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Proto-Mind » Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:57 pm

Stealthranger wrote:Another little something for 40K Space Marines, where they can move at 45mph in an arctic desert (travelled 15 km in 20 minutes). Which would be 12.5 m/s; 41 ft/s; 28 mph; 45 km/h; Mach 0.04; 0.0000000417 c

Note: the c thing was for the sheer hell of it


Do you have any sources on this, like any lore or whatever? And do you think I should add c to the list?
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Stealthranger » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:00 pm

Dawn of War: Ascension
“Pausing, I looked back over my shoulder at the diminishing image of the cliff-face behind me, with the storm wall rolling towards it. By my own calculations, I had walked about fifteen kilometres in twenty minutes, through a frozen desert in arctic temperatures, and yet I was not even breathing hard.”

There you go

As for the c thing, I just added it for the hell of it, if there was a combatant who was relativistic or FTL or w/e then c should be added
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Re: Speed Scale

Postby Legendary Genius Man » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:59 pm

Here it goes with Aang's speed feats:
a) He reacted and redirected a real lightning bolt from Ozai during Sozin's Comet. According to many sources and Avatar Wikia, Ozai generates lightning bolts more powerful and faster than Azula and Iroh and his lightning bolts travel faster too.
b) He reacted a tremendous explosions from Combustion Man(known in macho pimp club Sparky Sparky Boom Man) and he wiped his explosions out. :geek:
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