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Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:47 am
by guardianangel1911
It's also notable that while gods of destruction have access to this ability/transformation only the Angels Grand Priest and Jiren seem to have any mastery of it (again from what I'm seeing in discussion of the form and what I understood of it), that's part of why Beerus was freaked out. He knows how damned easily Goku adapts to new abilities, god Ki was one thing, but a thing that basically means "hey Beerus fuck your power level I'mma deck you in the schnozz whenever I want" is a far more terrifying prospect. Ultimate Instinct is the playing field equalizer and Beerus knows that if Goku gets a taste he will master that shit, and it won't matter if Beerus can break the universe.

Also this ability/transformation is kinda cool since in theory anyone in Dragonball can learn it and take advantage of the "fuck power levels" aspect. The form is basically the final nail in the coffin for power levels.

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:42 pm
by Lowk
And so the final nail in the "GT might still be canon coffin" has sunk in.

Wonder how many Jiren vs Superman debate have sprung up since.

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:45 pm
by guardianangel1911
Uhm...I've seen at least 6 on Facebook, 1 specifically Superman one on Spacebattles..

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:41 pm
by hellboy147
It happens with every transformation or enemy who is stronger than Goku, always has been like that; people just love DB vs Superman. Just my 2 cents, I do believe Jiren and Goku (once he perfects this transformation) will be on at least post crisis superman level.

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:46 pm
by guardianangel1911
I did see a Jiren vs Phoenix match, which was adorable

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:35 pm
by guardianangel1911
Hmmm so something interesting, in some of the footage that was missing from the Crunchyroll version of the episode the Grand Priest shielded himself and the two Zeno's from the Spirit Bomb.

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:06 pm
by hellboy147
The real question is did Goku really absorb or tank the energy of spirit bomb since it doesn't work on people with pure heart. If he did tank, that's hell of a durability feat. Also fight between Goku and Jiren did crumble world of Void which is infinite in size according to narrators of course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KDCW6q6YUM 22:00

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:31 pm
by guardianangel1911
Whis Krillin and Tien talk about it being Goku absorbing the Spirit Bomb which triggers Ultra Instinct and at least temporarily refills his depleted energy reserves.

Not going to touch the infinite space thing myself, though I've seen a lot of debate about it.

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:12 pm
by hellboy147
Sucks for Hit, he has all the tools to be a top dog, but just not for this tournament. Universe 6 is pretty much done now.

Re: Goku's Happy that he has a Gauntlet in the World Tournam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:30 pm
by guardianangel1911
I mean Kale can probably beat up Toppo since Jiren basically decided he ain't doing shit anymore until Goku goes topless.